Host Sherrilynne Starkie welcomes financial counsellor Pamela George to episode 11 of the 50 Women Over 50 podcast, where she explains how being considered and strategic about all aspects of life has been crucial to her success and happiness.
Pamela’s goal is to educate and empower women to gain control of their finances so they might live their lives to the fullest. From humble beginnings in Trinidad, Pamela has fought poverty and prejudice. She worked her way through university to gain a business degree and has enjoyed a flourishing career. Now in her fifties, she’s giving other women the tools they need to lead happy and fulfilling lives.
In this interview, Pamela recalls watching the sunrise on the morning of her 50th birthday. Then and there she embraced the new era of her life with intense hope and is taking on her fifth decade with energy and ambition.
About Pamela George:
Pamela George is the CEO of Sand Dollar Financial Literacy Counselling based in Ottawa. She provides coaching and training to help women gain control of their finances to pay off debt, build budgets and save for the future. She’s the author of Three Little Piggy Banks, a children’s storybook that promotes financial literacy. It is recognized by Credit Counselling Canada as one of the best books for teaching kids about money.
She is a much sought-after media commentator and has been featured in a range of top-tier media outlets including CBC, MoneySense Magazine, Canadian Business Magazine, the Financial Post, the National Post, Canada Press, the Toronto Star, the Ottawa Citizen and Flare Magazine.
Resources & Contact Information:
- Pamela George
- Sand Dollar Literacy Counselling
- Three Little Piggy Banks
- Yoga Bitch: One Woman’s Quest to Conquer Skepticism, Cynicism and Cigarettes on the Path to Enlightenment, by Suzanne Morrison
- Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones, by James Clear
- Ocean Canada
- Parkdale Food Centre
- The Ottawa Mission
- Salvation Army Booth Centre
- Insight Timer
About the 50 Women Over 50 Podcast:
Sherrilynne Starkie started this show as a creative project with the goal of interviewing 50 women past their 50th birthday to learn how they see the world, what lessons they’ve learned and what advice they have for us all. She’s been blogging and podcasting for 18+ years as part of a successful marketing and communications career and looks forward to learning from the women she will interview.
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50 Women Over 50 Podcast Episode 11
[00:00:00] Sherrilynne: Hello, and welcome to episode 11 of 50 women over 50, a podcast for women whose personal confidence is born of experience. I’m your host, Sherrilynne Starkie. The purpose of this podcast is to interview 50 interesting women who are over 50 years of age, about what they’ve learned about life by their fifth decade, so that we can all learn too.
And today I am welcoming Pamela George to the show. She’s a financial counselor with the goal of educating and empowering women to gain control of their finances so that they can live their lives to the fullest.
From humble beginnings in Trinidad, Pamela has fought poverty and prejudice. She worked her way through university to gain a business degree and has enjoyed a flourishing career. Now in her fifties, she’s giving other women the tools that they need to lead happy, fulfilling lives. In this interview, Pamela explains how being considered and strategic about all aspects of life has been crucial to her success and happiness.
Watching the sunrise on the morning of her 50th birthday, she embraced this new era of her life with intense hope.
Well, how old are you? I am 53 years old. Okay, so you are well over the threshold. Yes. What did you do for your 50th birthday?
[00:01:27] Pamela: My 50th birthday, I went to Mexico. I wanted to spend my birthday on the beach. I feel a deep connection to the ocean.
And I wanted to do that. I didn’t just go to Mexico. I went to Mexico on a V I P, all inclusive packages. And man, no turning back. I’m not going regular after that. It was fantastic. Premium food. Premium drinks, it was fantastic. But what I remember, mostly the morning of my birthday, I’m morning person.
I got up, grabbed a cup of coffee and maybe was out on the beach on the sand around five 30 and I watched the sunrise. On the morning of my 50th birthday and there was something real yet symbolical about watching that. Yes, because it was the sunrise of the rest of my life, and I embraced everything. I did a lot of reflection and.
I’m like, yeah, just like the sun is rising on my 50th, that is how I will rise into my fifties and have held onto that. Now, that was the summer before Covid hit., I lived that for a few months and then, when Covid hit, I’d forgotten all about that, the, the symbolism of that. But then it didn’t take me too long to get back to a place where, The sunrise of my 50th happened and I need to embrace that and live that.
And I didn’t stay down for too long after Covid when it initially hit.
[00:03:03] Sherrilynne: And when you were in the lead up to your birthday and you were like coming up to 50, well obviously you gave it some thought because you organized for yourself to go down on this trip to Mexico. But were you trepidatious?
Were you excited? Like, what were the emotions that you were feeling as you were approaching your.
[00:03:21] Pamela: My first feeling or the surface feeling was crap. I’m getting old., right? Crap. I’m getting old. But as I would say that, I would think it, I would remember when I hit 30, I felt the same way, and then the thirties were the best years of my life up until that point.
Yeah. Then I felt. That going into the, for on my 40th birthday and then the forties were the best years. Up until that point, I’m like, that’s what’s going to be my fifties. My fifties are going to be the best year up until this point, up until I hit 60. So as, as it was a fleeting to like, man, I’m getting old, but then.
Right after that, it would be, I’m about to live the best years and I’m not fantastic and I’m living it. I really am. And
[00:04:12] Sherrilynne: You, you hang onto this, this sunrise and can you still visualize it when you’re like feeling.
[00:04:19] Pamela: Yeah, I take pictures. I took pictures, and my intention is to blow it up and frame it on my bedroom wall because it is more than just a sunrise for me.
It’s so much, and I can still see it. I can feel more than I can see it because I don’t visualize well, but I can feel how my feet felt on the sand. I can, I remember the taste of the coffee. I remember that feeling of intense hope for the rest of my life when I remember that moment.
[00:04:55] Sherrilynne: Oh, that’s wonderful.
Yeah. And, pandemic, lockdown aside, have you been able to carry on with that into your fifties with trying out new things and, and keeping your
[00:05:05] Pamela: optimism?
Yeah, for me, one of the, one of my core values, it’s, it’s growth and learning. I’m always, and part of doing new things. Doing new things is part of growth and learning. I’m always doing new stuff. I mean, at one point in the pandemic, I started to learn about crystals because it was there and it was something to do, right?
I have, I’m always doing something, whether it’s reading up on it, doing a little course, I’m always learning and growing and learning new stuff. I think it’s what, for me, it makes my life very exciting, learning new stuff.
[00:05:43] Sherrilynne: Well, I’m wondering, how did you create this proactive perspective on life. Cause I know you came from, some hard, hard beginnings. The hard
[00:05:56] Pamela: upbringing, oh my God. I think, yes. I grew up in poverty. Yes, I was homeless. Let’s put it out there. But looking ahead, looking down the road, looking towards the future, I think it’s what got me out of that. It gave me hope because I can see. As a 10 year old girl being abused and living in a violent home and, and eventually homeless, I could think of the 20 year old woman, young woman who, who is educated and living in a nice apartment with a boyfriend who loves her, that type of thing.
Maybe it was just imagination at the time, but whatever it was, it gave me that, that determination to move forward. And, I think it just becomes such a habit for me that even now at 53, I am visualizing, okay, what is going to be. In, in say eight years, seven years, five years, that type of thing.
And, and I plan, I am a planner, a big part of me visualizing even back that 10 year old kid, I visualize, but. To me, planning is a key part of that visualizing, and I put a plan and, and I mean, one would ask what would a 10 year old know about planning? But it might be a little checklist of two little things that I want to do now.
It’s a, it’s an actual life plan that I have, but planning, I think, has got me to where I am right now and I’m very proud of where I.
[00:07:28] Sherrilynne: I think that your optimism and your gift for planning must really come in useful for your, your
[00:07:35] Pamela: business. It is, and it is a gift. I’m telling you. If I knew a way to bottle the way that I plan and manage my time, I will be a millionaire if I knew how to do that.
It comes so naturally too. It is something that I absolutely love. You mentioned the word plan chart, and I’m like, yep, let’s do it. I’m ready to plan. In fact, every Sunday morning I get up, I have my coffee, and I do about 90 minutes of planning for the week. Right, right. And then once a month, my husband and me.
We meet for an added hour, maybe around 10 o’clock in the day over, over brunch and, and we plan for the month. No, he’s not excited about it. Mind you, But he will be the first to admit. It’s because of those monthly meetings, planning sessions that we are able to be successful., in tune with what we want, meet our goals.
There’s hardly any fighting because we know what we have to do. Right, and you would like this one once a year towards the end of the year, around holiday Christmas into the new year, we used to, this is pre Covid. We used to go to either a hotel here in Ottawa or in Ontario or go to an all inclusive. It was done in Cuba once, and that is our planning for the year.
Right. We have sat around a pool with cocktails, with our planners. Planning the next year or the five years, whatever it is, we at, at that point. And it’s a tradition that we have, we do every year. Sometimes it takes us away for a week.
Sometimes it’s just a day and night somewhere. But we absolutely love it.
[00:09:27] Sherrilynne: Tell me a little bit, like, what are the kind of issues that you discuss in these
[00:09:30] Pamela: planning sessions? Ah, okay. Oh gosh. You got me going there, girl. All right, we’ll reflect on the year, what, the normal, what went right, what didn’t go so right.
Our happiest or most happy moments. What, what really? how we grew, how we could have handled things better, make peace with the year if we have to, kind of thing, right? And then we, we look forward to the new year. And we have categories, we have different categories. His is different from mine, but at the end of the day, we know how to fit it in.
Like he would do the normal. Physical, mental, emotional, financial, he’ll do that. Whereas mine is, some of them would be, I have more, I have more categories than him, but I have like health and wellbeing, right? I have spirituality. I have learning and growth, friends and family, that type of thing. I have like about seven categories.
I think he has four or five. Okay. But when we sit down, we know where we are going to put it. His doesn’t have to look like mine, but the things we want to achieve, and the timeframe does have to match up. We’ve been able to come up with something that works for two of us. We set our goals. And, these are not just something you set and then by February you forget about it.
We don’t call them new year resolutions. That’s not what they are. What it is. We are planning our year, right. And we revisit every month, see how far we are on, and there is usually a midyear check-in, okay. Right. And we use that as an excuse to book a hotel somewhere, Even if it’s in the Chateau, we don’t live far from the Chateau.
We live in a condo very close, like five minutes walk from the Chateau. And sometimes we’ll book a hotel in the Chateau for a night so we can just have our mid check-in. It’s quite fun.
[00:11:23] Sherrilynne: It’s a change of venue out of your home, it seems like that’s really material to the process for you. Yeah. Yeah,
[00:11:29] Pamela: because, if we are at home, I’m like, mm.
We should cook lunch, or this needs to do, or, there’s always something to do. The fridge is there. I’m going there. Like, I have this thing, I’ll open the fridge. Like there’s something surprising there every time I open it to eat. Like, I don’t know, but there’s always stuff to do. He might get distracted, I might get, we just go somewhere else.
It’s different. Being in a different place really does help us, and it’s a little treat for us too. For, all the planning and, and meeting our goals and all of that. Yeah.
[00:12:04] Sherrilynne: I find this fascinating personally because, I’ve been spending some time over the last, I guess, since I started working on this podcast, I guess about 8, 8, 9 weeks ago now, like really starting to think about what the future holds for me.
Let’s be frank, most of our career is behind us at this point, and child rearing is behind us and stuff. I’m really kind of reflecting on what is my life going to look like going forward? Am I going to retire? If I do retire, what am I going to do? How does that look?
And I feel like, What you’re saying really resonates with me is that like, because I, I’m actually, I’m struggling with it. Like, I cannot see it, I can’t visualize it. Do you think I’m unique
[00:12:53] Pamela: in this or, no. No. I, I think it’s, I have friends and family who approach me to help them with this, just so you know.
I do this exercise every year, some half year if we have to. Just like if I’m doing it for the first time, it’s not like I just sit down and I set the goals.
The goals have to be aligned with values. Yes. Okay. I revisit my values. Has my values changed over the years? It could, right? And I decided, okay, what are my core values now, right now as I work on this plan? Then I have some goals, some dreams that need to be tied into these values. And if it’s not, do I, I question it.
It sort of makes it easy because you have your values, you set your goals and your dreams aligned with that. I think that in itself, at least the feedback I’ve gotten, and from what I see for myself, it makes it easier to dream down the road. I know that when I’m 65, I want to sell my business.
Right. I know that already, and I know when I say that to people, how do you know that? Well, it doesn’t mean I can’t change my mind. Right. But that’s the plan that I’m working towards. Right? I think a lot of people feel that if they put a plan in place that they can’t deviate from it.
And that’s, that couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s your plan. You could do what you want with it. You can tweak it back in 2019, my husband and I were in Trinidad at a hotel doing a plan for 2020.
By March 2020. That went to the shits, right? It sure did. Yeah. Right. And that was the big one. 2020 was like, that was okay, it’s 2020 plan, but it’s a bit of a foreshadowing for the, for the five years. Yes, yes. And all of that. And then it went to the shits. I remember sitting down with him and thinking, okay, we need to revisit the plan. We didn’t say we need to throw it away. We didn’t need to. We did not say, well, see, this is why we don’t plan.
Or we sat down. It didn’t happen in March because I think we were in shock. This was the whole world. Yes. Right. And with my business, I had a lot of folks reaching out. I was offering free counseling just to help anybody with the finances, free financial counseling. By about April, Is when we sat down, and we revisited everything, and we tweaked what had to be tweaked.
, and we did it and we are back on, we, that original plan in 2019, maybe we changed like about 60% of it. Right. Okay. But we still have a plan and we still going forward and we still excited, Yeah.
[00:15:46] Sherrilynne: I know that you’re a published author, but I’m wondering. I feel like you have the idea of a great book here,
This is a book that I would buy, honestly.
[00:15:56] Pamela: Yeah.
[00:15:57] Sherrilynne: Thank you. Have you ever thought about, writing a book about this process?
[00:16:00] Pamela: You have. I have thought about writing a book, but about my story and tie that into financial counseling and what I do in my business. People have asked me about this planning process and if I would ever write a book and my answer is, I don’t know how to do that.
Whereas I can write my story and I can write about my business signature system and tie it in and stuff earlier on, I think I said I don’t know how to bottle it and sell it. Right, right. I think that’s where I, I struggle. If there’s a listener out there who feels, they can help me, put this idea of planning and, and dreaming and values, and bring it all into a document.
[00:16:48] Sherrilynne: believe me, people will, people will. Cause I like, I actually think that it’s, I would definitely read that book. Oh, thank you. The way that I’m feeling right now. What would your, what would your advice be to someone that’s, let’s say five years out to, to a woman who’s five years out from retirement, like, what would you think, what would your advice be for them to prioritize at this point themselves?
[00:17:12] Pamela: Right, the need to cut the bullshit and stop. Just stop the what will everybody think, but how will this look? Stop it. Stop it. And focus on yourself. Go inwards. Ask yourself, what do I want? What do I love? What is meaningful to me? What do I value? That’s it. Yeah. And that the questions need to go inward
[00:17:40] Sherrilynne: and that’s the kind of like.
The starting point really of the planning, right?
[00:17:45] Pamela: When the, the few people, so I have been known to get together with a few ladies and and do this exercise. It’s a whole new process, but when we get together to do that, that’s where it starts asking yourself the questions. And I’ll tell you, a lot of women are afraid to ask themselves that.
Don’t want. They’re so
[00:18:08] Sherrilynne: busy for 20 years,
[00:18:09] Pamela: right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They’re afraid. They’re like, I’m afraid if I ask my question of what is meaningful to me, I wouldn’t have an answer, or I would find nothing is meaningful. They’re afraid to ask it. Yeah.
[00:18:24] Sherrilynne: Or that, yes, and that it undermines everything I’ve done the last 20 years because it’ll make, it’s a hard reckoning when you do that introspection and you realize, all the things that you’ve busied your life with don’t really align with what’s important to you. And I don’t think that’s
[00:18:46] Pamela: uncommon. It’s not uncommon, but how I look at it, it was aligned with the woman you were back then.
Yeah. It was aligned when you were the mother of young children, when you were a wife, when you were a home ma, all the it aligned back then, nothing is wrong with that. But the place that you are right now, maybe with grown children, with a husband who is more independent, right? or maybe without a husband, you need to now find a way forward that is in alignment with you and with the life that you have now, and with the life that you want. Nothing is wrong. We don’t have to be the same way all through our lives. I am not the same woman I was in my forties and thank God I’m not. What
[00:19:27] Sherrilynne: advice would you give to, your 30 year old self?
[00:19:32] Pamela: My, my 30 year old self, I’ll say, calm the fuck down. Calm the fuck down. Yeah. Because what happened was, coming from poverty, homelessness, violence, all of that, in my twenties I had to play catch up. Like I only went back to university. I think at age 29 and I graduated at 33 or something, right?
I was playing catch up. I just bought my house I think, when I was 34 years old. I felt behind and I put a lot of pressure on myself to catch up and and have all the things that women my age already had. And I was busy with my career. I had an amazing job for the London School of Commerce, traveling the world, I didn’t enjoy it.
And I look back now and I’m like, I had a job where I was paid to travel the world first class to all the islands, staying in hotels on the beach, And I didn’t enjoy any of it because I was too busy trying to., yes. My 30 year old self, I’ll say, calm the fuck down. Yeah.
[00:20:38] Sherrilynne: Yeah. I hear you on that. I feel like I’ve heard not exactly that, those words, but that message.
Yes. Over the past few, podcasts that I, that I’ve recorded. It’s about just have confidence in yourself and you’ve got this and, just enjoy the moment like when you’re 30. My mom always says you can’t put an old head on young shoulders. She is So right about that.
And I hear what you’re saying.
Trying to catch up, trying to stay ahead of the curve and don’t try not to pay the rest of your life for mistake that you made when you were 18 or 19 years old.
[00:21:17] Pamela: I think, I am happy to tell my story, the place that I am in my life, I, I consider myself an empowered a financially empowered woman based on what I do, right?
And I’m happy to tell my story. I want to write a book about my story, but I’ll tell you this, back in Trinidad, which is where I’m from, in my twenties and thirties, it was an embarrassment. My story and my early childhood worked against me. Yes. I was judged because of it a lot. I think what would’ve helped a big deal is the fact that I pushed myself to attend university to get a degree, and I couldn’t even afford it. I was working full time and I would go to school at night. Tuesdays from six to nine, Thursdays six to nine, and all day Saturday. Where, where did you study? In Trinidad we have, we have these private schools who are, who collaborate with universities abroad.
My degree is in international business Administration, this local college collaborated, and that’s the exam we did. Their tutors would come down and teach and supervise and that type of thing.
You see being poor and, and quote unquote, a nobody, and not having a degree really got in my way of success. Yeah. When I got a degree, folks started to look at me a little differently. Just a piece of paper saying I have a degree, and that I did it for that initially.
That’s what I, yeah. But that degree opened up many doors for me.
[00:22:51] Sherrilynne: It takes determination. Thank you. Able to build a career when you’ve, started from not much in
[00:22:58] Pamela: life.
I was the first in my family to go to university. I’m really proud of that. Now, there are many behind me now, but I was the first, and I wear that badge of honor proudly.
When I came to Canada back in 2006 or seven., I had my fancy degree international business and I had, I had all of that, but in Canada, that counts for nothing.
Right. I had to have experience and, how do I get experience? They want me to have experience, but how do I get it? Yeah. And., I remember just volunteering at the Ottawa mission. Volunteering at the Salvation Army. Yes. And, and I did that for about six, seven months. And then when I applied, I was able to say, I volunteer.
These are the things that I do at the mission. These are the things I do at the Salvation Army. And it helped me to get into Algonquin College. And I was there for six years.
[00:23:52] Sherrilynne: And then you also get, a reference as well from the people that you’re working. Exactly. Exactly. And you’re starting to build it.
Like I, I’ve immigrated four times, I totally hear you on this. When you show up and you don’t know anybody volunteering’s a great way to start building out your network as well. I agree.
[00:24:06] Pamela: Yeah. What are you doing
[00:24:08] Sherrilynne: for fun these days?
[00:24:09] Pamela: Fun. I actually, in my planning, there’s a section for fun, just so you know,
I read a book a month and it’s usually a, a fun book, a fiction book. Right now, I’m reading Yoga Bitch. It’s fun, it’s really good. I am watching, and I don’t do a lot of tv, but there is this Netflix show that I like. It’s with Zach Efron called Down to Earth. I’m on season. Yeah, I’m on season two right now.
In my plan on the fun, I have a number of things that I say, things I enjoy, and I just pick some from that on a weekly basis and make sure I do it,
[00:24:45] Sherrilynne: I like this concept of planning
[00:24:46] Pamela: your fun. I plan my fun because if I don’t, I’ll end up being too busy for it. And let me tell you. Yeah, most of my clients are too busy When I’m doing their budgets, I’m like, I have a line, I put in a line for hobbies and fun and I ask them and they’re like, I don’t know.
I’m too busy. And you know, it’s a funny thing when I used to work with men. Oh yeah. When that line item would come up in their budget, they’ll rock back and they’d be like, oh, guitar. Or, my quarterly trip with the boys or whatever they wouldn’t even bat an eye. This is what I do when I work with women.
They’re too busy, too overwhelmed to have fun. I actually challenge them on that and by the end of working with me, we find something. Even if it’s buying one book a month, it needs to be in their budget. Yeah. Good, good.,
[00:25:40] Sherrilynne: because, that is something that we do. We, we get very, very busy and then, a lot of women do things that other people think are fun. Yes. Yeah. Right. So, they want to amuse their children, they’re doing like kid things that, and, maybe not really, it doesn’t really float their boat, but Yeah. The several women of my acquaintance that are season ticket holders at professional sports.
Yeah. And they’re there two or three nights a week and., they would never have signed up for that on their own.
Where do you see yourself in 10 years from now?
[00:26:16] Pamela: At 63. In terms of my business, I could see myself really working towards selling my business at that point.
Yeah. 10 years from now, I will definitely not be here in the winter. I am thinking Portugal. I want to spend my winter in Portugal. Or Spain somewhere there with the occasional Caribbean, because that’s where I’m from. But I don’t think I want to be old and cold. The other one, I
[00:26:50] Sherrilynne: say probably half the women I’ve talked to have said something along those lines.
Yes. What do you feel most hopeful about your future?
[00:26:59] Pamela: What, what I’m most hopeful about, I feel that I am on the right track. To living out what I’m supposed to live out here as my purpose. Like I have this wonderful gift of, of how to, knowing how to manage money and knowing how to plan and stuff. And I feel I am doing that in a way that at the end of life, if I were to look back, I’ll be like, yeah, I did.
And I’m hopeful that I’m on track for that. Yeah. Sounds
[00:27:34] Sherrilynne: like you are. You’re so, optimistic it makes me think that you’re going to. Look back from 10 years and say, yeah, my fifties were pretty cool. Yeah.
[00:27:44] Pamela: Yeah.
[00:27:46] Sherrilynne: We talked a little bit about the books and shows that you’re watching.
Are there any other books that you’d like to recommend to our
[00:27:53] Pamela: Yeah. Atomic Habits really help me a lot. that I think really helps folks. I feel the goal setting. New year resolution thing is done all wrong.? Yes. I don’t think it’s goals. I think really, we need to have systems.
Okay. And Atomic Habit talks about putting a system in place. And once a system is in place, meeting your goal is almost like second nature. And I subscribe to that. What I have is systems. Okay. Sounds
[00:28:26] Sherrilynne: amazingly liberating,
[00:28:29] Pamela: It is.
[00:28:30] Sherrilynne: All right. You mentioned that you used to volunteer for the mission, and, did you say Shepherds,
salvation Army and Salvation Army are, are you, how are you?
[00:28:40] Pamela: giving back. Right. Oh, I love that question. The name of my company, Sand Dollar Financial, it’s based on the ocean, the theme of an ocean. If you went to my website, you would see that. I felt it’ll only be fitting that, part of my profits would go to Ocean Canada. To help clean up the ocean.
But locally I’ve recently collaborated and teamed up with the Parkdale Food Cupboard.
We will probably come up with a way to do financial literacy workshops there for both staff and the neighbors.
[00:29:09] Sherrilynne: Good for you. It’s a worthy, it’s a worthy one as well, that’s for sure.
Is there an app that you could not live without?
[00:29:17] Pamela: My favorite app, let me answer it like that would be Insight Timer. They have some beautiful meditations and some beautiful teachings that I absolutely love it. Yes.
[00:29:27] Sherrilynne: Okay. I have never heard of that, but I will find it and put a link to it in the show notes.
And is there any other kind of like over 50 life hack that you’d be, that you’d like to share?
[00:29:42] Pamela: Don’t be ashamed to have a nap. I love
[00:29:45] Sherrilynne: it. I love it. I love it. I love it. What great advice.
[00:29:53] Pamela: If I’m going out at night, you can put money on the fact that I will be having a little. I naps are beautiful. Have a little nap. I am a
[00:30:06] Sherrilynne: committed napper, I’m only on your side
[00:30:08] Pamela: of it.
[00:30:08] Sherrilynne: Okay. Well, we’ll come to the end of the questions I had for you. Is there anything that I haven’t asked you or anything else you’d like to share with the audience?
[00:30:17] Pamela: I am just finding that a lot of women are so overwhelmed with their life right now, and managing their money is just falling along the wayside.
Like it’s the thing they don’t have time for, and that is showing up as. It is showing up as budgets that not balanced. It is showing up as shopping with money that they don’t have eating badly. So many things, right? Just pause and ask yourself, are you really giving money the attention it deserves? I’m just urging that, don’t let the overwhelm mess up your life more than it needs to. Please go to my website and have a look and see if it’s something you resonate with, I would love to have you in my circle.
Let’s have a conversation.
[00:31:10] Sherrilynne: That’s it for episode 11, this has been 50 women over 50 a podcast for women whose personal confidence is borne of experience. And thank you to financial counselor, Pamela George for joining me today and inspiring us all to live our best lives. I personally loved her ideas about planning for happiness and fun, and I’ve already bought the book Atomic Habits by James Clear as she had suggested. I’ve put links in the show notes to Pamela’s website and socials, along with links to the books, organizations, and other resources we discuss on the show. So, check them out. And if you have a second, please drop me a rating or review on apple or wherever you get your podcasts.
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